I think with this whole carbon thing, all of us will have to agree to disagree. The guys that think it's BS will tell you up and down, turn their nose in the air, let out a sigh, all day long that it's a crock of sh*t and the guys that use it and believe in it(maybe it's bought confidence..who the hell cares) will swear buy it and continue to use it. To me, I use it.....believe in it and can afford to buy it. Am I the idiot? Some who know me will say yes. But I feel it is as important as most other pieces of gear I take out with me. That's why there is 6,000 different kinds of every piece of hunting gear you can imagine out there. People like different stuff. All it takes is one good experience with using/wearing that one "special" thing to make you to want to keep using it. Example....A guy I know shot a monster buck 30 min after he put coon piss on his boots. Guess what he does everytime he goes out hunting now? Different strokes for different folks.