I've owned summitt's,loggy bayou's, a timbertall and now a lone wolf.In my opinion,nothing even compares to a lone wolf.They're by far the quietest and easiest to use of any treestand.The only complaint is that the old sit and climb wasn't that comfortable.The hopefully solved that problem this year by using a new seat with a padded back rest.IHopefully mine will be here in a week or so.I actually have the hand climber top and the sit and climb.I use the hand climber top in archery season because I don't like andything in front of me or on the sides so I can shoot sitting down.ILst year I put a summit seat on the sit and climb top and use it when I hunt with a rifle.I can sit all day in it and the climbing bar works well as a rifle rest as long as you use a seat that hangs below the frame.When archery hunting,I want something that is light,easy to pack and easy to set up in the dark.I also want a stand that is quiet.The LW is the most quiet stand to set up,climb with and hunt out of.You pay more money for one but next to my bow,my treestand is the most important piece of equiptment I take in the field.