thanx alot nomercy....those sound great...maybe ill try making them....hoopy.i was looking for a cheap rest.....until i buy a bipod....i dont want to spend 60 bux because a bipod wont be much more...and i rather have a good bipod then sticks...just right now i want to try to get rid of the truck payment so spending alot is out( im in highschool still and work at a fast food place...i have money...but rather get the truck paid for then buy a bipod right now....if the trucks payed for that means i can work less and that means more hunting and fishing!) but thanx alot...i saw those in there today...nice...but i dont need something that expensive....