Whelen36 all of my deer hunting is done from a tree stand. I climb as high as I have to for good hunting. I have a 40 foot line that I use to pull my Rifle and bow up to me. My stand is an API and a seat of the pants (SAFETY HARNESS). The last thing you want to do is fall. A member in our hunting club fell from his tree stand 2 years ago from about 12 feet. He was laid up almost a year with a broken shoulder and back. If you are going to buy a tree stand buy a good one and a (SAFETY HARNESS). Good luck take your time and be safe.