LYNX34,I bought the justice vft this year and I love it.It is smooth but no speed burner.I was plannin on adding the extreme to my bowrack also until I shot the patriot.I liked the extreme alot it was a great feeling bow but the patriot just felt a little smoother and the difference in speed on the birth certificates on the bows I shot was only 4fps.The patriot is a little shorter ata with a little higher brace height.It also has the sealed bearings and pivoting limb pockets.If my dealer had of had it in stock when I bought my justice that would have been the one I would have bought.Oh well I still love my justice just gotta have that patriot though.Whichever one you choose the extreme or patriot you cannot go wrong with a bowtech!