Of the 4 bigguns I've taken with a bow I had only seen 1 of them before...I watched him along with another big buck all summer...I'm pretty sure I'd passed him up the yr. before also as a 120ish 8 pt. When i took him he was 149 4/8 gross 10 pt. that weighed 165 dressed..also have a 140 4/8" 10pt that weighed 195, a 128" 8 pt that weighed 205, and a 126" 10 point that weighed 175.