RE: You Pro shop Gurus and bow Vises
Since you don't like the RS vice, the Apple vices are built like a tank. It will last you forever.
I personally don't care for the types that screw into the stab hole, too time consuming for "quickie" jobs that require a lot of in-and-out of the vice. And also you have to remove anything that is already in the stab hole. Like quick disconnects, slign mounts, etc...