i think mature would be around 180 or 200 lbs, not 150. I've killed one over 180, and he was a 140" 9 point weighing around 215 or 220 field dressed. I got him December 8, 2002 in Allamakee county, Iowa. i had never seen him before.

bukmastr, congrats on all those fine bucks!! You must have really put in the hours in scouting.

slayer