i killed one with a 22 with hollow points....we were standing there cooking chicken by my friends camp....he kept coming out so i grabbed an orange hat my liscnese and my 22(only gun we had besides pistols and assult rifles)...he came out...crack! shot him like a deer because his head was behind a tree and he seen me.....he died quick.....now that im hunting them this year im using the 3006.....definently over kill.....but i have alot of 3006 i want to burn up and what a good way to practice with the mauser......soon as i get back from vacation im going after them hard.......cant wiat....just use your deer rifle if you have one.....and be careful of where your shooting....