i started out listening to these '' PROS'' about being able to shoot 10-12 shots without cleaning the barrel just because you could still push a ball or sabot down the barrel.i shoot a knight LK-93 .50 cal. with a rem 275 ge sabot and can get 1-2" groups at 100 yards.however, the only reason i can is by running a wet patch down the bore followed by a clean one after each shot.when hunting,i carry a murine bottle with peroxide along with cleaning patches in my shirt pocket along with my quickie loaders.my jag stays on my ramrod for quick use.i have not had to worry about a second shot,but when i shoot a deer,i soak the patch with a few drops of peroxide,swab the barrel,run a clean patch to dry,pop a cap to clear then reload.never had a misfire.