OE, The boys in the Freach River area, released birds a number of years back , that population has climbed over the years. I just taked to one of the fello's behind that release last Fall in Toronto, and he had told me the birds are doing very well. I've seen places in the US with just as bad of Winters and still have a huntable population. I'm sure in time there will be a hunt in the North Bay Areas...BT