So after paying real big bucks for the top of the line Remingtom, a Tianium version, i went to the range, thought all was well, it wont shoot 3 rounds in the same place, tried different scopes, took the one off my "old model 7" know that one is good. They all go in the same hole. And still all over the place, then when i went to reload some more rounds for further testing, find that there are deep gouges in the brass!! after marking the brass i find that they are all in the same place, that will do wonders for the life span of the brass i am sure.... I dont know what remington has decided to do to thier new rifles but this one went back to the store it came from and was traded in on a nice Browning. Reminton will have to do something BIG to get me back as a customer after this and all what i have been reading here!!