I do not own a extreme or a patriot but am planning own buying one before too long.I have shot both of them though and the patriot was a little smoother to me.I think it was because of the higher brace height.The patriot has bearings in the cam and idler wheel while the extreme has bushings I think and the patriot is about an inch shorter axle to axle also.They both felt great to me though.My dealer sells the extreme for $615 and the patriot for $689 so a little price difference also.I bought the new Justice vft this year and love it I just want another bow because I sold my old bow and I like to have 2 just in case.The birth certificate on the patriot that I shot was 311fps and the extremes was 315 a 4 fps difference.Both were 29" 71lbs 350 grain arrow specs.I am leaning more toward the patriot myself but either one you choose you can not go wrong.You will love em they are both fast,quite,and smooth shooters.