I saw a guy shooting one of those at the &quot;Maid of Chicago&quot; cruise ship on Lake Michigan a few years ago. We were smelt fishing and the ship got to within a 150 yards of the shore. When they came back though, the were out about 500 yards! Gonna hunt griz with that thing?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>Dick