thanks determined, it was both a confidence booster, and crusher, since this is my second real year of hunting Turks, the first bird i've ever called in, or even seen while hunting (gobblers anyway), so it was good till I moved. im not a patient kid, but i'll learn, all i do know is that im hooked for life!!!! I am thinking on trying the wood striker on that call, the acrylic is a little sharper, so it should work out...hopefully!