www.thegametracker.com, www.goldtip.com, there are more just go to steve jacksons webpage I can't remember the URL but it will have alot of carbon sites on it, you won't be disapointed going from ACC to a full carbon arrow, I gaurantee the strength factor will blow the ACC, or ACE out of the water. I know I shoot ACE, they don't take much in the way of a beating, because of the straight carbon mesh. Good shooting.
Dylan

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