Yep that sums it up NC. It was pretty funny to watch how big NC's eyes got when I said birds. The birds were silent only thing I heard was three clucks. I had a GREAT time and those two are welcome to the camp fire anytime. JacksonQ was great in letting us hunt one of his farms. We got there late thursday night but he went out of his way to make sure we knew where to hunt. He had told us that he had heard a bird there earlier in the week. Everything did look like it was birdy so to say. I'm just glad that I was able to work him in. I'm glad you guys had a great time looking forward to the next one. Pat