After shopping for a new Scope for a week and speaking to just a few people over the course of the years I am going Zeiss for now. There will be no more Leupolds for me until they get their act together. These new VXIII's are too little too late. I am thinking this rifleman scope deal with Walmart is one of the causes of it. Come to think of it once Remington sold guns thru Walmart/Kmart their quality took a nose dive. They have such a great volumn of Rifleman scopes to build that they probably have to hire new people and these people probably work on the expensive scopes as well. Something is not right there and I hope they get whatever is wrong fixed since I consider/ed myself a loyal customer for so long.