Bob,I have no tolerance for road hunters myself.I never have and never will shoot at a deer from a vehicle.Regardless of what you think,Alt's plan is to reduce the the herd to 13 dpsm.Maybe it hasn't happened where you hunt but it has happened in some of the areas where I hunt.I've been out four mornings a week for the past month scouting and hunting for turkeys.Most of that time has been spent on moshannon state forest.So far I haven' t seen one single deer and almost no sign on public land.Alot of this area has been timbered lately and you find very few tracks crossing al the skidder paths.I've seen more elk tracks than deer tracks and I've never even seen a live elk in this part of their range.Do I blame ALT for this?You bet.This area has seen the biggest increase in allocations over the past few years and is the only area of the state that is below the deer density goals.Rather than "tweaking" the plan as he promised,we'll still have more doe tags this year than last year.That makes alot of sense when other areas are still three times above the goal,get a decrease in the allocations.The guy's a bozo.No way can our hunting be better than ever when we reach his deer density goals.