BTbowhunter, Sorry, I cant help you with IL. but Do know that MI. Manages there OW. herd at 29.6 DPSM. and OH. manages there OW. herd at 25 DPSM., Alt isnt managing our herd to benefit the herd, he is mangeing it to benefit the Timber Industry, The Bird watchers and the Flower Sniffers. Do yourself a favor!! Ask a biologist with QDMA, or any biologist outside the PGC. and they will tell you that max, OW. carrying capacity for habitat such as PA. is around 50 DPSM., and most biologist's recommend that you should manage your herd at 60% of Max.
I understand you want to give Alt. a chance, and want to believe in him!! I did aswell!! But like me and many others you will reach a point were you will have to face the fact that you got Punk*D!! and the sooner you get to that point the better!! Pike