quite frankly you may be right that they would have to to close buck season to get the numbers that high, but perhaps you misunderstood my feelings on it, I really don't mind if the deer population is only 557k. If they (PGC) need to close buck season for a year and make it doe only for that year, again as I said before I can live with it, it ain't that big a deel if the only deer I have a chance at for a year or two ain't got no antlers, When they would eventually bring season back in it would just mean I would have to to work harder, put in some more effort in scouting and getting landowner permission, and perhaps try a new area, but I don't really object to bringing the deer herd down in total number because right now, yeah I can shoot a deer if I have the time to spend a whole day or two in the woods, but it isn't a real good quality deer, ie compared to deer of some other states where deer hunting is a big deal, PA deer seem rather anemic, if getting the population down to 557k, which is half the number you say we currently have, is in fact the goal, then one "side effect", intended or not will be that those 557k deer are going to have more browse and cover to work with, nigh on twice as much, and that will make a diffenrece in the size and quality of those deer, both in antler size and body size. But again, just to restate my personal opinion, if I can't fill my tags every year, whooptie doo for me, I don't really mind.