Shame on anybody for saying bad things about the 45/70....Too big for deer? Are there different levels of dead? "He's dead enough to eat" and "man he is way to dead to eat"? The 45/70 bullet doesn't come apart like those "other" rounds, and you can eat right up to nice .45 caliber hole. Plus, your tracking skills improve tenfold when the only moving they do after hit straight up in the air, back five feet, and down.