Shooting the loose cleanshot (78gr by weight) I grouped 4 pr qt 235's to 1 1/4"@ 100yds. Using the same wt of powder, I also grouped the 215's and the 250's to about 2-3" out of a dirtier barrel. I'm sure I can group any of these bullets. I guess it was the pellets causing the problem, not the bullet. Thanks for the help.