I took my 12yr old son out on his 1st Turkey hunt. It was very exciting. We had some gobbling on the roost, made our way to setup, and jumped a bunch of deer in the woods. The Turkeys musta got nervous after that racket! Once on ground they wouldn't come in any closer then 40yds. 1 was a decent full tom, 2 others were jakes. I told my son were keeping the shot under 30yds with his 20ga. The toms gobbled alot. The adult, and 1 jake were spittin & drummin putting on a good show. I was watching my son, and his gun barrel was shaking up & down like crazy. I could hear him taking deep breaths trying to calm down. I wanted to laugh. I had big ol' grin under my mask. He moved around some, and think that also prevented the toms from coming closer. I'm sure at least 1 saw his movements. It was a great learning experience for him. He can't wait to go out again in the morning!