well said. i personally like remington. i think they are a tough gun. my 870 has made it through some tough stuff. i also think the barrel has a good strong finish on it b/c it has no scratches and i am the pusher for our group of hunters and we hunt through thick ****.

i have seen all kinds of guns break for odd reasons and i think it is just b/c they got an unlucky model off the line. most guns are starting to improve rather than decline.