ewolf and Arthur- sorry but your both wrong about rybo on this. Having known him and his family for several years, besides shooting with them, their is not a more ethical family I know of. It's true he doesn't shoot all year but would still pass an efficiency test, I know, I have shot several for the various parks around. Rybo is a hunter. He hunts and fishes constantly, knows the woods and the habits of all he pursues. He does it by HUNTING his quarry, not shooting long distances. Although many claim to be able to hit a tennis ball at 40yds with a bow, put living, breathing fur for a target and all goes haywire due to nerves, and "buck fever" . rybohunter keeps his shots close and practises enough to make the kill at his range. He's always in the woods, so buck fever doesn't enter into his shooting ability. He can share my campfire anytime. I shoot competition and have tried to get him to come over for fun at 3D, but he's always busy with scouting, or hunting some critter. If you needed a liscence for bowhunting pigeons, rybo would be first in line. By the way- a 30 yd. shot would be ethical for the way he shoots but I'll bet a dollar to a hole in a donut he would never take it- he'd say too far- and try to get closer. Sorry this is so long but this thread rubbed me the wrong way. By the way ewolf, don't ask rybo to get out of his chair too many times, he's built like a linebacker for the Green Bay Packers, LOL.