EKM I actually have been trying to take an angle of there are 2 sub-issues involved in re-introducing wolves.

The first is where the hot debate is. That is what effect do wolves have on the eco-system and should they be here in ANY NUMBER over zero. Feelings have been shared and will continue to be shared. This is the point I've been defending.

The second I think we all pretty much agree on and that is the way the FEDS are handling it. I believe that wolves are having a serious negative impact in some parts in the west. Maybe not many but it is scary thing with them being prtected. The wolves need to be de-listed immediately as far as I'm concerned. Ranchers should be able to shoot a wolf caught in the act of killing livestock. Management numbers need to be established as I feel some areas already have a problem. If I lived in those areas I'd be raising a fit. Not to eliminate the wolf, just that hunting needs to be reinstated and numbers reduced in those areas. I do believe the FEDS have skewed the effect that some areas are suffering with respect to elk numbers. An example is I've read that in some areas calf ratios are under 5 per 100 cows. Instead of telling you that they tell you the average overall calf ratio is 30 to 100 over a large area and then say, "see the wolves aren't over populated." The Yellowstone park and surrounding areas now hold about 674 wolves. I fell this number should be around 200 tops. But these are just my opinions, I'm not qualified to make that recommendation. Basically I think wolves should be here but the GOV is giving in to the bunny-huggers and honestly it does piss me off.

Like Speedgoat says lets PLEASE get some way of controlling them.