dont give up on the mouth calls...they can be your BEST friend. keep working. took me a while to get a hang of it...remember practice everywhere until everyone around you is ANNOYED....but also...one of the posts talked about the size of the call....if it doesnt fit into the roof of your mouth...like me for example, i have a small mouth so i had to trim quite a bit off....probably a little over 1/16" all around. if you are going to trim...make sure you do a LITTLE at a time...you can always cut more off...but you cant put it back on. And last thing....bend the metal frame of the call SLIGHTLY to contour the roof of your mouth...not too much or the reeds will loose their tauntness. goodl uck this weekend! i want to see some pictures!