If you guys want to talk elk, just look at elknuts videos. The fourth video comes out next month in which he promised me my own autographed copy. Even well seasoned elk hunters can learn from all the research that elknut has put into them. He even has dominated another elk forum on www.stickbows.com and his tapes are big hits. A picture is worth a thousand words. Bobby

P.S. Paul, if you didn't spend so much time on these hunting sites, I'd be watching my fourth tape by now.