You have to ask yourself,where are the bucks that were saved by ar in 2002?Remember,Alt claimed the harvests should return to normal after the first yearof ar.This probably did happen in areas that are still above his deer density goals.However,the herd reductions and extra button bucks harvested contributed to far less bucks being available in many areas.This trend will continue until the deer density goal of less than 15 dpsm is obtained.No one is argueing that AR by itself wouldn't produce more and bigger bucks.The argument is that once his dd goals are met,none of his claims can come true.