i bought him a winchester 1300 youth model 20 ga. he and i both like it well, i may even use it for my season its short and very light. it has the speed pump so it is a short action which works great for him. he also went on his first deer hunt last fall and used a new england arms handi youth rifle in 243. those are nice but needed to be topped with a scope. however he was unsuccessful at that but did get to shoot at a doe.