ARTHUR P - I will go search somemore - I have access to a good pro shop and good guys to boot, I wanted to do it on my own but it looks like trial and error is just not the way to go with todays standards.

Rangeball - I just got (last week) new cables and string for the thing from my pro guys, I really didn't even think about it until now but I did notice yesterday that it seems the "wall" is moving back or my release is stretching and just about the time my arrows started wandering. Man I feel like such a putz . plus my loop has almost made a full 360 degree turn around the string. The clues are there but the shooter isn't paying too much good attention.

SO MUCH TO LEARN SO LITTLE TIME! I've got a shoot coming up, outdoor 3D, I wan't to be ready.

Thanks for the info guys I'll check back witcha later.

PS: "The Thing" my PSE Stingray has a single cam "NRG" letoff is at 80%.