well said alloutdoors

if any of you know farmers that have had their crops ruined by deer or if you are a farmer yourself, you might be a little more sympathetic to the whole nuscence permits. I work with farmers and they do sometimes apply and sometimes get a few tags and use them. most of the times they would like more. and most of the time they have similar deer problems next year. oh, and they hunt the heck out of them in the regular season.
they are needed and many cases.