BTBowhunter.Did you check out the deer density goals that deaddeer posted?Only one wmu has a goal above 15 dpsm.After seeing that,you you understand how Alt's statements about more and bigger bucks can never come true if his ultimate goals are met.I was a big Alt supporter at first.I lost faith once I started doing some research.The ultimate goal is massive herd reductions.Not many people would complain about saving more bucks and killing more doe.It's the lies and mis information that Alt is using to get to his deer density goals that ticks me off.By the way,that link was taken directly from the pgc website.How many people do think would support Alt's plan if they new what the ultimate goals were?