quilly, i agree with you... i have a remington shotgun, and i love it to death... but i have never cared for the rmeington rifles that are made within the last 5-10 years. i would like to consider myself a remington guy, but i will not buy a new remington rifle. browning and ruger all the way for me with rifles... my next shotgun will actually e abrowning as well... i want the citori lightning... beautiful gun!!!