I do agree that AR's may make controlling the population a bit more difficult. BUT.. if you remember... and you should.... It wasAlt who pointed out... way back.... at the begining..... when all this started.... AR's were not goiung to be put in place the first year for just that reason. It would go against trying to reduce the herd which was the number one goal. 4 pts or better were not implimented state wide for the same reason too many bucks would be saved in ohter areas. Most of the state got three points, the more fertile west got 4pts AR's were what the hunter would get in return for the sacrifices necessary with reduced deer numbers. Pretty smart and correct. You sound like Bush and company still trying to tell us WMD's are in IRAQ. But please don't expound on that. That's a whole other topic (though parrallell in many ways)! Juniorpc.