I watched a show a few months ago, this guy was taking his son on his first hunt, the kid was like 10. first off where in the world can a 10 yr old child hunt with a rifile, so anyway there in a house stand and into the feild comes this buck i think is was an 8 pointer, around 200 yrds. so dad tells the kid put the x hairs on the shoulder and pull the trigger, first off the gun diddnt fit the kid he was having trouble holding it up,the kid says he cant really see the shoulder and diddnt want to shoot, so dad tells him its ok just pull the trigger, so the kid shoots and luckly misses. a little later out comes a smaller buck. same thing happends, now to me the kid had good ethics, not wanting to shoot cuz he wasnt shure of his target, so finnaly just around last light a doe wanders out into the field 80 90 yrds dad says go ahead and take her. so the kid aims shoots pops her in the hind quaters a total blown shoot way off the vitals the kid starts to cry and dad says don't worry its part of hunting..what the *&$@#! is that all about, the kids first hunt and now he thinks its ok to blow your shoot, man i wanted to reach right threw my tv and choke the livin crap outa that guy.some kind of hunter he is, what a rolemodel!!!!!!1