168gr of lead and copper flying. Sure it will kill. But when you loose that big buck or elk cause your shot accidently hit the shoulder and didn't pentrate much to the lungs, don't come back here crying. Those extreme long range guys use them. and Use them effectively on perfect broadsided shots. For me its not worth the risk. I would rather have 2MOA accuracy knowing the bullet will stand up to just about any shot position and not fragment, than .25MOA accuracy hopeing it will miss all bone material.