The buck rule is great, bigger buck not more buck. There are still a million hunters shooting buck. The number will stay at a mean. If you fish a spot that has a 12" limit on the size of fish, most of the fish you catch are 12" or less. There are not more just bigger buck. Some of you guys hunting private ground should go out on public land for a while and hunt that to get frustrated. I am sick of hearing all the excuses why people are not shooting deer. The reason is there are not as many deer on public hunting grounds as there used to be. Talk with the old timers that hunted private grounds. They used to pass on 6 pointers because they would see bigger and more buck. You can't keep taking deer out of the mountain and expect there to be some for the future. The game commission has us sold on more deer. If this is true why is the deer kill going down if there are more deer in the mountain, buck and doe. Alt is blaming the hunters of PA for not being good hunters. I don't believe that excuse either. I get a deer every year but I can see that there are fewer deer in public lands. Even Gary Alt said so himself on smarttalk. Also, how do you manage deer in a larger area than a small area? It was just to sell the doe license for money. Take a look at some of the counties that never sold out of doe license, they do now! We better be careful of an organization that we as hunters have now say in. Keep the deer herd in check and balanced, yes, but they want the deer herd small to please others not hunters. Take a look at the natural gas wells, timbering, and other game species that make them their money. They even think the game lands are theirs. We bought the game lands with our license fees. They started this plan 20 years ago and it is going well. They didn't ask anyone about digging up gamelands to put gas wells on them, or timbering. They just did it. They don't care about hunters, they only keep us pleased enough to keep buying hunting license. When I was 12 years old I didn't need a special time to hunt, I could go and shoot deer with everyone else because you saw them then. The road hunters should be no excuse for Gary Alt! Just my two cents.