as a bystander on this arguement, and with QDM raising it's godawful head here in VT, i have to ask a few questions: if there is so much land, (and by the sounds of it they are really big parcells), that is private, how does your dept. expect to effectively manage the herd if hunters can't get to the herd? the ideal c.c. for a QDM program should be around 60%, is alt heading for that? i know here in VT, and i believe NH is the same way, relatively little land is posted, and if it isn't posted, as long as you respect the property, you can just park alongside the road and go hunting, why does the residents down there feel they have to shut off access, up here you are considered a game hog for doing so, especially if you post your land, then hunt elsewhere. yes, you have more hunters, about 10 times the amount we do, but your landmass is probably 10x ours also. does the dept. have in place a management plan for those areas that have blocked access to hunters, heck, just through natural dispersion, the herd is going to remain close to the same level i would think. just some questions and observations for you all.