ohhh the dreaded P word. Lots of folks like the way these polaris bikes ride and handle but when it gets down to the nitty gritty they just don't seem to stand up. Last year at a quad rally i witnessed a honda foreman go back down the trail to pull out 3 swamped polaris bikes one at a time. The honda had made it through just prior to the ploaris bikes getting stuck. No bike is invincible but if i was lookin for a bike that would take alot of abuse the polaris bikes wouldn't be in the equation.......