Sounds like ya'll are at least in the right place. I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that likes to educate turkeys. PowDuck and I have been in the same situation so many times that it isn't even funny any more. You would think that we would learn to be more patient but I guess not. I once heard that when you think you've waited on a gobbler long enough then you should wait another 45 minutes. That time is pure torture. Good luck on getting on them again.