I use the forehead gland scent on licking branches over all of my mock scrapes but I've never used them on rubs. I've never made any mock rubs but I'm thinking about trying. How do you go about making them? Just use a knife blade? I've never witnessed a deer visiting any of my scrapes but I know they've been there by the sign they leave. This year I plan on putting my stealth cam near by in hopes of catching something working one of them.