Rangeball, your experience differs from what I felt. I hope I didn't draw and shoot a fluke smooth patriot when I decided to order one.

I was pulling back a Patriot at ~65# and liking the way it felt when I grabbed a Justice that had a few turns out on it and drew it back, it wasn't the oh-so smooth experience I was expecting. I commented about it and they guy selling the bows said " ya, I'm not too sure what all they hype is about".

They didn't have any Liberties in stock and after shooting the Patriot set a little over ~62# I decided it was the bow for me, but then again- I'm only going to be pulling 62-64#.

I did draw a couple of outbacks, but I don't even know why I picked them up, I'm not currently in a Mathews mood.