Jason,Kip Adams of the QDM association proved that the worst the b/d ratio could ever be is 1/3.

Junior,go look at the deer density goals that I posted and tell me how we will have more and bigger bucks than ever before.You've evaded this question several times now.

Look guys,I support several of the programs Alt has initiated.I just want him to back up the his claims of better hunting when he we reach those goals.We've already met them in one area where I hunt and the hunting is not better.He has continued to lie througout this whole process.I've posted several lies and so far no one has proved them wrong.

Like BTbowhunter,I've also been in the insurance industry for years and I can also prove that the insurance industry is not behibd this.This is all about forest recertification and I can prove that as well.