Okay, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth but am I to infer from this statement that you do not feel a person should train themselves the least little bit with the weapon they intent to hunt with. And stay within the boundaries of their particular skill level. Heck, just buy your first gun or bow and head straight to the woods. No need to see how well I can shoot it. I'll just let fly and see what happens. Whats that, a deer 500 yards away. Well I've never even practiced a shot farther than a 100 and have no idea how much my bullet drops at that range but ah hell lets let her rip cause wouldn't it be really cool if I hit him? Besides I'm out here all alone I'll never tell anyone if I blow his back leg off or something. Or hey I've shot many times at 1000 yards and I can only hit a deer sized target 1 out of 25 times but ahhh screw it I'm still taking the shot because its just a deer. So what if I maim it.

Anyone who falls into those catagories is indeed a slob hunter to me.

Well thank God this is not the case where I hunt. Although there are still too many of these types in the woods here as well. Trigger happy and quick to spray and pray. The only public land I even dare step foot on during deer season is some Army Corp of Engineers land that is bowhunt only. Forget hunter orange I wouldn't walk across one of the WMA's here during gun season even if I had a flashing pink neon sign strapped to my back. Heck three years ago a guy got killed riding down a logging road on a 4 wheeler. A buddy of mine was shot (but thankfully not killed) while he was climbing down a tree. So yeah I'm a little hard on the guys who get out there and goon it up. I think we should demand more out of people. Not make excuses for them and expect less.