thanks for all of your opinions, i think i am leaning toward a savage or a rowning a-olt in 30-06 or 280... i love brownings, but i love the price of the savage and from what i hear, they are hard to beat in the accuracy dept. thanks again for all your help, and keep 'em coming.. i haven't totally made my mind up yet... btw... i just got a new 11-87 premier, and that is one awesome gun if you are looking for an autoloader... just thought i would put that out there