Outdoor, I'm not sure where you're going with that, or what your question is? I think most of us know what is best when we're in the field, but when the moment arises, and I mean that trophy of a lifetime finally shows up. That's when things are defined. You're right about those other shots such as long distance and running shots. But that's why I said when I get up in the morning I know my intent. Trust me, I already said I'm guilty as charged. You know I killed my first bear with a neck shot. We never had bear in this county for many years, and we hunted them for many years with out ever getting a sniff. Well,,,,,, when I finally found one. It was a situation where he knew I was there and I felt he was going to bolt at any second. His head and neck was the only thing I could see, so that's where he got shot. Probably about 50 yards offhand. I would have much rather had him step out, but I wasn't willing to give him that chance. You and I both know a lot of people on here talk sh** all day long. So whatever,,,, get over it. I probably wouldn't have posted until you tried to qualify your skills by talking about watching trophies walk and spending thousands on hunts. For the most part this board seems to be comprised of quite a few seasoned hunters that could care less about such claims. Money has nothing to do with ethics.