Bigcountry, this is the last time I will respond to your nonsense. I think we are starting to look like a couple of hens bitch-slapping each other. I will say though that I killed my first buck with a recurve bow in 1966 and many more since. I suspect that you were'nt even in diapers yet. I fail to see what that has to do with the topic though. Also, I have done much of my hunting in New Yorks' Adirondack Park; 6,000,000 (yes million) acres. That's bigger than your state and New Jersey combined. Makes me wonder how you got the handle "bigcountry"? You should learn from JagMagMan, a real southerner that knows what he is talking about. Afterall, did'nt Maryland sit-out the Civil War? New York and Texas sure did'nt[