Have a friend I loaned a 14+ yr old martin to a few years ago hoping he would pick up on bow hunting. Well I run into him yesterday morning and he told me he was going on a javalina hunt in deep tx next month using that old martin. Well the bow isn't a bad shooter but its got eratic cams and isn't any where near a hunting bow so I loaned him my HC 4 runner knowing it will push him over the limit. He is already a hunting freak and I'm sure it won't take much. He has a two limit hog hunt and I told him to take the first one with the bow cause after the first bow kill he will probably leave the rifle in the truck. Hope this trip does it since I don't have anybody close that shoots.